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:Hmm, they probably could be combined for a while, but I'm thinking this would be a mistake and would cause some major problems in the future.  I think we should make them distinct.  I'm not really sure what the full differences are myself.  At the very least, sacrament is probably a lesser known term for this to most of the world, and having both names would be useful in that regard (I agree about the links from each other with some explanation about the relation or such). [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 15:54, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
 
:Hmm, they probably could be combined for a while, but I'm thinking this would be a mistake and would cause some major problems in the future.  I think we should make them distinct.  I'm not really sure what the full differences are myself.  At the very least, sacrament is probably a lesser known term for this to most of the world, and having both names would be useful in that regard (I agree about the links from each other with some explanation about the relation or such). [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 15:54, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
 
::Oh, actually, this category is just about the sacrament in general (not necessarily LDS sacrament, but the dictionary definition or such, which might include the LDS sacrament).  I don't know—this one was a little ambiguous, and I had been thinking about deleting it.  [[:category:Sacrament Hymns]], however, should be for the LDS one (that's what I was talking about in my last post; I thought I was in that article, for some reason), I think, but the description still needs to be updated to reflect that. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 15:58, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
 
::Oh, actually, this category is just about the sacrament in general (not necessarily LDS sacrament, but the dictionary definition or such, which might include the LDS sacrament).  I don't know—this one was a little ambiguous, and I had been thinking about deleting it.  [[:category:Sacrament Hymns]], however, should be for the LDS one (that's what I was talking about in my last post; I thought I was in that article, for some reason), I think, but the description still needs to be updated to reflect that. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 15:58, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
:::I take "the sacrament in general" to mean the meal, not baptism or anointing the sick or confession/penance/reconciliation... but only LDS readers or those familiar with LDS usage will understand "the sacrament" in this way. We Baptists have two sacraments (baptism and communion) but many Baptists insist on never calling them sacraments, but ordinances. Catholics and many others (Eastern Orthodox, Episcopalians, etc.) will think in terms of seven or even more sacraments. So while "Sacrament" may be a good term for the category, there should be a paragraph explaining ''what'' sacrament is referred to, and then any of the other term categories (e.g. Communion) that mesh with it well can just become redirects. --[[User:Haruo|Haruo]] 18:47, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
 

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Presumably this refers to the LDS sacramental meal, analogous (at least in some ways) to what other churches may call "the Eucharist", "Communion", "Holy Communion", "the Mass", "the Divine Liturgy", "the Lord's Supper", "the Table of the Lord", etc., etc. In many Christian traditions, this is only one of many Sacraments (e.g. Roman Catholicism recognizes seven Sacraments: Baptism, Eucharist, Reconciliation (also known as Confession, or Penance), Confirmation, Marriage, Holy Orders (Ordination), and Anointing of the Sick (including Extreme Unction, or "Last Rites") (see e.g. this webpage. I have also started a Topic category "Communion", and it may or may not be useful to make some sort of cross-reference between that and this. I am not familiar enough with the LDS doctrine on this point to know whether the terms can be combined without confusion. --Haruo 01:14, 4 August 2007 (MDT)

Hmm, they probably could be combined for a while, but I'm thinking this would be a mistake and would cause some major problems in the future. I think we should make them distinct. I'm not really sure what the full differences are myself. At the very least, sacrament is probably a lesser known term for this to most of the world, and having both names would be useful in that regard (I agree about the links from each other with some explanation about the relation or such). Veramet 15:54, 4 August 2007 (MDT)
Oh, actually, this category is just about the sacrament in general (not necessarily LDS sacrament, but the dictionary definition or such, which might include the LDS sacrament). I don't know—this one was a little ambiguous, and I had been thinking about deleting it. category:Sacrament Hymns, however, should be for the LDS one (that's what I was talking about in my last post; I thought I was in that article, for some reason), I think, but the description still needs to be updated to reflect that. Veramet 15:58, 4 August 2007 (MDT)