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Veramet: New page: =General Information= Composer: Attributed to James Lucas =Associated Lyrics= Come, Let Us Anew category:Tunes category:Public Domain Tunes [[category:10 5 11 12 6 12 1...

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New page: =General Information= *Composer: Attributed to James Lucas =Associated Lyrics= *Come, Let Us Anew category:Tunes category:Public Domain Tunes [[category:10 5 11 12 6 12 1...

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=General Information=
*Composer: Attributed to [[James Lucas]]

=Associated Lyrics=
*[[Come, Let Us Anew]]

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[[category:Public Domain Tunes]]
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 *Composer: [[James Lucas]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354#v=onepage&q&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (1762–1800)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208#v=onepage&q&f=false The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, ca. 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=yL0MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA495#v=onepage&q&f=false The story of the hymns and tunes, 1906 (p. 495)]</ref><ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=CD9LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA496&dq=Lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=5#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false The Brethren hymnal: a collection of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, suited for song service in Christian worship, for Church service, social meetings and Sunday schools, 1901 (p. 496)]</ref>
 **Some sources list this hymn as being published first in 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (this may be why the Cyberhymnal™<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/l/cletusan.htm Cyberhymnal™ article on this hymn.]</ref> supposed it to be his birth year).
-**Some sources (such as [[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]]) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by [[J. Spencer Cornwall]] says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
+**Some sources (such as [[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]]) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by [[J. Spencer Cornwall]] (note that 'Mormon' is a term we no longer use; we are to use the full name of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
 ***This is a long shot, but it is also possible that a [[John Lucas]] composed the tune, as one publication says that John Lucas (Jno. Lucas) composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is also said to have composed a tune called [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>.

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 *Composer: [[James Lucas]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354#v=onepage&q&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (1762–1800)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208#v=onepage&q&f=false The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, ca. 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=yL0MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA495#v=onepage&q&f=false The story of the hymns and tunes, 1906 (p. 495)]</ref><ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=CD9LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA496&dq=Lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=5#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false The Brethren hymnal: a collection of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, suited for song service in Christian worship, for Church service, social meetings and Sunday schools, 1901 (p. 496)]</ref>
 **Some sources list this hymn as being published first in 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (this may be why the Cyberhymnal™<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/l/cletusan.htm Cyberhymnal™ article on this hymn.]</ref> supposed it to be his birth year).
-**Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by [[J. Spencer Cornwall]] says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
+**Some sources (such as [[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]]) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by [[J. Spencer Cornwall]] says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
 ***This is a long shot, but it is also possible that a [[John Lucas]] composed the tune, as one publication says that John Lucas (Jno. Lucas) composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is also said to have composed a tune called [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>.

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 *Composer: [[James Lucas]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354#v=onepage&q&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (1762–1800)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208#v=onepage&q&f=false The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, ca. 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=yL0MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA495#v=onepage&q&f=false The story of the hymns and tunes, 1906 (p. 495)]</ref><ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=CD9LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA496&dq=Lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=5#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false The Brethren hymnal: a collection of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, suited for song service in Christian worship, for Church service, social meetings and Sunday schools, 1901 (p. 496)]</ref>
 **Some sources list this hymn as being published first in 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (this may be why the Cyberhymnal™<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/l/cletusan.htm Cyberhymnal™ article on this hymn.]</ref> supposed it to be his birth year).
-**Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by J. Spencer Cornwall says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
+**Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by [[J. Spencer Cornwall]] says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
 ***This is a long shot, but it is also possible that a [[John Lucas]] composed the tune, as one publication says that John Lucas (Jno. Lucas) composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is also said to have composed a tune called [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>.

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 *Composer: [[James Lucas]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354#v=onepage&q&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (1762–1800)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208#v=onepage&q&f=false The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, ca. 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=yL0MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA495#v=onepage&q&f=false The story of the hymns and tunes, 1906 (p. 495)]</ref><ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=CD9LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA496&dq=Lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=5#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false The Brethren hymnal: a collection of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, suited for song service in Christian worship, for Church service, social meetings and Sunday schools, 1901 (p. 496)]</ref>
 **Some sources list this hymn as being published first in 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (this may be why the Cyberhymnal™<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/l/cletusan.htm Cyberhymnal™ article on this hymn.]</ref> supposed it to be his birth year).
-**Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). 'Stories of Our Mormon Hymns', 1963, by J. Spencer Cornwall says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
+**Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). ''Stories of Our Mormon Hymns'', 1963, by J. Spencer Cornwall says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
 ***This is a long shot, but it is also possible that a [[John Lucas]] composed the tune, as one publication says that John Lucas (Jno. Lucas) composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is also said to have composed a tune called [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>.

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 **Some sources list this hymn as being published first in 1820<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354&dq=lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (this may be why the Cyberhymnal™<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/c/l/cletusan.htm Cyberhymnal™ article on this hymn.]</ref> supposed it to be his birth year).
 **Some sources (such as the 1985 LDS hymnal) say he was born in 1726 and that the tune is attributed to him (not definitely by him). 'Stories of Our Mormon Hymns', 1963, by J. Spencer Cornwall says the following (about the 1726 birth-date and the attribution): "This is also the opinion of a few other hymnologists but certainty in the matter cannot be established. In the American Tune Book, the title of the hymn is Lucas', but it is not known whether this has to do with the composer or something else." (Note the apostrophe, however, which seems to indicate possession in some regard, although Lucas could have compiled a collection by various hymnists.) No publication year, publisher or author is mentioned regarding the ''American Tune Book''.
-***(also possibly a [[John Lucas]], as one publication says that John Lucas composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is said to have composed [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>)
+***This is a long shot, but it is also possible that a [[John Lucas]] composed the tune, as one publication says that John Lucas (Jno. Lucas) composed the tune [[Swanick]], while James Lucas is also said to have composed a tune called [[Swanwick]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=6IM6AAAAIAAJ&pg=PA566&dq=swanwick+hymn+lucas&as_brr=1#PPA188,M1 Catalogue of Manuscript Music in the British Museum, 1906]</ref>.
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-*Composer: Attributed to [[James Lucas]] (b. 1726)
+*Composer: [[James Lucas]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=L2MXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA354#v=onepage&q&f=false Hymnal of the Methodist Episcopal Church, 1881 (p. 354)]</ref> (1762–1800)<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hjh6kVApQC&pg=PA208#v=onepage&q&f=false The Story of the Tunes, 1890 (p. 208–209)]</ref>, ca. 1805<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=yL0MAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA495#v=onepage&q&f=false The story of the hymns and tunes, 1906 (p. 495)]</ref><ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=CD9LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA496&dq=Lucas+%22come+let+us+anew%22&as_brr=1&cd=5#v=onepage&q=lucas&f=false The Brethren hymnal: a collection of psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, suited for song service in Christian worship, for Church service, social meetings and Sunday schools, 1901 (p. 496)]</ref>
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 *[[Come, Let Us Anew (Wesley)|Come, Let Us Anew]], by Charles Wesley (1707–1788)
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Lucas - Revision history

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Veramet: New page: =General Information= *Composer: Attributed to James Lucas =Associated Lyrics= *Come, Let Us Anew category:Tunes category:Public Domain Tunes [[category:10 5 11 12 6 12 1...

Veramet: New page: =General Information= Composer: Attributed to James Lucas =Associated Lyrics= Come, Let Us Anew category:Tunes category:Public Domain Tunes [[category:10 5 11 12 6 12 1...