Guide Us, O Thou Great Jehovah - Revision history

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‎Lyrics

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 *English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in tradition in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh musician of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, such as Evan Stephens, although the latter is pure speculation).
 **Notice how one of the earliest versions from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints below says 'Saints upon the promised land' instead of 'lead/guide us to the promised land'. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
-**After the research I've done, I can't account for why ''Our Latter-day Hymns'' and [[Hymns, 1985]] credit the version of the hymn used with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as having the same translator as the other version. Older hymnals of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints credit Robert Robinson, but there are no remarks upon the change. Perhaps there is further information somewhere, but I have yet to find it. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
+**After the research I've done, I can't account for why ''Our Latter-day Hymns'' and [[Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1985]] credit the version of the hymn used with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as having the same translator as the other version. Older hymnals of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints credit Robert Robinson, but there are no remarks upon the change. Perhaps there is further information somewhere, but I have yet to find it. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
 *Copyright: [[Public Domain]]
 ==Lyrics from [[Relief Society Song Book, 1919]], no. 49==

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 *Source: [[Relief Society Song Book, 1919]], no. 49
 *Contributor: [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
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 =Lyrics=
 *Poet: [[William Williams]] (1717–1791), 1745<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/g/u/guideme.htm Cyberhymnal™ article.]</ref>—originally written in Welsh
-*English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in LDS tradition) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh LDS musician, such as Evan Stephens, although the latter is pure speculation).
+*English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in tradition in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh musician of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, such as Evan Stephens, although the latter is pure speculation).
-**Notice how one of the earliest LDS versions below says 'Saints upon the promised land' instead of 'lead/guide us to the promised land'. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
+**Notice how one of the earliest versions from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints below says 'Saints upon the promised land' instead of 'lead/guide us to the promised land'. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
-**After the research I've done, I can't account for why ''Our Latter-day Hymns'' and the [[1985 LDS hymnal]] credit the LDS-used version of the hymn as having the same translator as the other version. Older LDS hymnals credit Robert Robinson, but there are no remarks upon the change. Perhaps there is further information somewhere, but I have yet to find it. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
+**After the research I've done, I can't account for why ''Our Latter-day Hymns'' and [[Hymns, 1985]] credit the version of the hymn used with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as having the same translator as the other version. Older hymnals of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints credit Robert Robinson, but there are no remarks upon the change. Perhaps there is further information somewhere, but I have yet to find it. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
 *Copyright: [[Public Domain]]
 ==Lyrics from [[Relief Society Song Book, 1919]], no. 49==
 <pre>1. Guide me, O Thou great Jehovah,
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 [[category:Exodus 13:21-22]]
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 =Tunes=
 *''[[Cwm Rhondda]]'', by [[John Hughes]] (1873–1932)
-*[[Gloaming]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=wIkoAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA236#v=onepage&q&f=false The Latter-day Saints' Psalmody, 1896 (no. 236)]</ref>, by [[Annie Fortescue Harrison|Annie Fortescue Harrison]]<ref name="fortescue">[http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IrelandGenWeb/2003-01/1042754806 Rootsweb post from Jean Rice.]</ref> (1851–1944)<ref name="fortescue" />, 1877<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=P60WAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA129#v=onepage&q&f=false Publications, Issues 8-10, 1908 (p. 129)]</ref>
+*[[Gloaming]]<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=wIkoAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA236#v=onepage&q&f=false The Latter-day Saints' Psalmody, 1896 (no. 236)]</ref>, by [[Annie Fortescue Harrison]]<ref name="fortescue">[http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/IrelandGenWeb/2003-01/1042754806 Rootsweb post from Jean Rice.]</ref> (1851–1944)<ref name="fortescue" />, 1877<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=P60WAQAAIAAJ&pg=RA1-PA129#v=onepage&q&f=false Publications, Issues 8-10, 1908 (p. 129)]</ref>
 **This tune is also used with a song called 'In the Gloaming', by Meta Orred.
 **Copyright: [[public domain]]

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 =Lyrics=
 *Poet: [[William Williams]] (1717–1791), 1745<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/g/u/guideme.htm Cyberhymnal™ article.]</ref>—originally written in Welsh
-*English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in LDS tradition) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh LDS musician, such as Evan Stephens).
+*English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in LDS tradition) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh LDS musician, such as Evan Stephens, although the latter is pure speculation).
 **Notice how one of the earliest LDS versions below says 'Saints upon the promised land' instead of 'lead/guide us to the promised land'. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)
 **After the research I've done, I can't account for why ''Our Latter-day Hymns'' and the [[1985 LDS hymnal]] credit the LDS-used version of the hymn as having the same translator as the other version. Older LDS hymnals credit Robert Robinson, but there are no remarks upon the change. Perhaps there is further information somewhere, but I have yet to find it. [[User:Veramet|Veramet]] 02:23, 24 August 2010 (MDT)

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 =Sheet Music=
 ==External Sheet Music Links==
 *[http://www.lds.org/churchmusic/detailmusicPlayer/index.html?searchlanguage=1&searchcollection=1&searchseqstart=83&searchsubseqstart=%20&searchseqend=83&searchsubseqend=ZZZ Flash printable/playable/transposable sheet music from lds.org/churchmusic]
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 =Tunes=
 *''[[Cwm Rhondda]]'', by [[John Hughes]] (1873–1932)
 =Lyrics=
-*Poet: [[William Williams]] (1717–1791)
+*Poet: [[William Williams]] (1717–1791), 1745<ref>[http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/g/u/guideme.htm Cyberhymnal™ article.]</ref>—originally written in Welsh
-**First verse translated into English by [[Peter Williams]] (1722–1796)
+*English translation: There are at least two versions of the song, and both appear to be translations rather than adaptations of each other. One is by William Williams and Peter Williams (1722–1796). The other (the one used in LDS tradition) is of unknown origin, but possibly done by Robert Robinson (or perhaps a Welsh LDS musician, such as Evan Stephens).
 *Copyright: [[Public Domain]]
 ==External Lyrics==
 *[http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Curriculum/music.htm/hymns.htm/praise%20and%20thanksgiving.htm/83%20guide%20us%20o%20thou%20great%20jehovah.htm#JD_Hymns.83 Lyrics from LDS.org] (same as from [[the 1985 LDS hymnal]])
 ==Lyrics from [[A Collection of Sacred Hymns for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Europe, 1840]]==
 <pre>Hymn 228
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 Singing praises,
 Songs of glory unto thee.</pre>
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 [[category:Lyrics]]
 [[category:Public Domain]]
 [[category:British English Lyrics]]
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